Comments on: Please Steve, may I have some Java? http://tech.puredanger.com/2007/10/26/java-mac/ Alex Miller's technical blog Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:11:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: Alex Miller - The future of Java on Macs http://tech.puredanger.com/2007/10/26/java-mac/#comment-12456 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:05:59 +0000 http://tech.puredanger.com/2007/10/26/java-mac/#comment-12456 [...] Leopard released last week and I blogged my feelings then about the lack of Java 6. The Java community has seen a lot of moaning and gnashing of teeth over the weekend and the anti-Java community has had a field day pointing and laughing at our distress. [...] […] Leopard released last week and I blogged my feelings then about the lack of Java 6. The Java community has seen a lot of moaning and gnashing of teeth over the weekend and the anti-Java community has had a field day pointing and laughing at our distress. […]

]]> by: Bicosyes - since evermore… » Blog Archive » Apple vs Sun, Leopard sin soporte para Java 6 http://tech.puredanger.com/2007/10/26/java-mac/#comment-12348 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:03:56 +0000 http://tech.puredanger.com/2007/10/26/java-mac/#comment-12348 [...] Se pueden ver numerosas protestas de usuarios que se sienten traicionados. Desde luego es una buena táctica para perder mercado, y alejarse totalmente del sector empresarial. Tarde o temprano, supongo, que deberá soportarlo pues no es que sea una tecnología minoritaria que digamos. Eso si, en vez de eso, Leopard te incluye de serie Ruby y Ruby on Rails, parece ser que no se han enterado que ha muerto. [...] […] Se pueden ver numerosas protestas de usuarios que se sienten traicionados. Desde luego es una buena táctica para perder mercado, y alejarse totalmente del sector empresarial. Tarde o temprano, supongo, que deberá soportarlo pues no es que sea una tecnología minoritaria que digamos. Eso si, en vez de eso, Leopard te incluye de serie Ruby y Ruby on Rails, parece ser que no se han enterado que ha muerto. […]

]]> by: Ken http://tech.puredanger.com/2007/10/26/java-mac/#comment-12284 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:01:51 +0000 http://tech.puredanger.com/2007/10/26/java-mac/#comment-12284 When I first started reading about leopard, the new iMAC became the iDrool in my eyes. Everything looked to be there. I was itching to get a MAC to use along side linux. Possibly even replace it over time. When I found out that JAVA 6 was not included because Apple did not have it ready in time for leopard, I became concerned. I used to use OS/2 and found that same thing. I would see a new version of something come out for other operating systems and finally OS/2 month later. It was just not a priority. I don't like the idea of MAC becoming the same thing. MAC should be cutting-edge. As far as I can see, they are cutting-edge except for this JAVA 6 in leopard issue. I personally wish that Apple would: * address why it was not included in some kind of press release. * tell developers and users where JAVA stands in their vision of OSX. Is it core to the OS or a "nice to have" toy? * tell us what consumers/developers can expect with future releases. (delay or availability when it is officially released by SUN). Are delays going to be a common experience for JAVA developers. I think this would cool my jets and other too. Either way, I am now less confident in getting a MAC. Linux will remain my platform until I get a clearer view. I know it would drive me crazy using my XP system at work with the latest java, my laptop at home with the latest java but my MAC with one version back. When I first started reading about leopard, the new iMAC became the iDrool in my eyes. Everything looked to be there. I was itching to get a MAC to use along side linux. Possibly even replace it over time.

When I found out that JAVA 6 was not included because Apple did not have it ready in time for leopard, I became concerned. I used to use OS/2 and found that same thing. I would see a new version of something come out for other operating systems and finally OS/2 month later. It was just not a priority. I don’t like the idea of MAC becoming the same thing. MAC should be cutting-edge. As far as I can see, they are cutting-edge except for this JAVA 6 in leopard issue.

I personally wish that Apple would:

* address why it was not included in some kind of press release.
* tell developers and users where JAVA stands in their vision of OSX. Is it core to the OS or a “nice to have” toy?
* tell us what consumers/developers can expect with future releases. (delay or availability when it is officially released by SUN). Are delays going to be a common experience for JAVA developers.

I think this would cool my jets and other too. Either way, I am now less confident in getting a MAC. Linux will remain my platform until I get a clearer view.

I know it would drive me crazy using my XP system at work with the latest java, my laptop at home with the latest java but my MAC with one version back.

]]> by: Alex http://tech.puredanger.com/2007/10/26/java-mac/#comment-12084 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 02:54:39 +0000 http://tech.puredanger.com/2007/10/26/java-mac/#comment-12084 We certainly have that in our test servers...I just don't want the whole matrix on my own machine. :) I'm happy to give up the OS dimension if I can get the complete JDK dimension. We certainly have that in our test servers…I just don’t want the whole matrix on my own machine. :) I’m happy to give up the OS dimension if I can get the complete JDK dimension.

]]> by: Juixe TechKnow » Mac OS X Leopard http://tech.puredanger.com/2007/10/26/java-mac/#comment-12083 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 02:38:10 +0000 http://tech.puredanger.com/2007/10/26/java-mac/#comment-12083 [...] Steve, may I have some Java? [...] […] Steve, may I have some Java? […]

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