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	<title>Comments on: Fortress rendering</title>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From watching a few older videos and talking to folks at the lab, it seems to me like they continue to make significant progress and they are now focused on getting the compiler working well (the interpreter is *really* slow).  They are working on top of the JVM which should give them a fair amount of portability and performance for free and that seems to be the near-term strategy.  

From a community pov, there seem to be a number of folks in academia helping on various bits and the mailing lists (if you can fight through the complexities of finding and signing up) seem very helpful.  

I&#039;ll be doing a 30-45 minute talk on it later this week and I will post the slides and hopefully the video as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From watching a few older videos and talking to folks at the lab, it seems to me like they continue to make significant progress and they are now focused on getting the compiler working well (the interpreter is *really* slow).  They are working on top of the JVM which should give them a fair amount of portability and performance for free and that seems to be the near-term strategy.  </p>
<p>From a community pov, there seem to be a number of folks in academia helping on various bits and the mailing lists (if you can fight through the complexities of finding and signing up) seem very helpful.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be doing a 30-45 minute talk on it later this week and I will post the slides and hopefully the video as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alex--did you get a sense from the Fortress lab you took as to how active the community is, what progress they&#039;ve made, etc.? It wasn&#039;t clear to me after Sun lost the DARPA (?) HPC challenge with Fortress whether it was getting serious funding or attention. It seemed they had a stunning amount of work laid out for themselves, given that to achieve real HPC they&#039;d either need to write a great compiler suite, build an HPC VM, or fork and extend Hotspot, none of which are exactly trivial. What was your sense of the status of the project?


Thanks
Patrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alex&#8211;did you get a sense from the Fortress lab you took as to how active the community is, what progress they&#8217;ve made, etc.? It wasn&#8217;t clear to me after Sun lost the DARPA (?) HPC challenge with Fortress whether it was getting serious funding or attention. It seemed they had a stunning amount of work laid out for themselves, given that to achieve real HPC they&#8217;d either need to write a great compiler suite, build an HPC VM, or fork and extend Hotspot, none of which are exactly trivial. What was your sense of the status of the project?</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Patrick</p>
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